Curse

Francis Demeules · Mar 29, 2006, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Ok, If you read my post a few pages back I think it was, I'd liek to fix an error I think I made. I was reading off a list of elites on GuidWiki, and one skill at that time was I think mistakingly called an elite when it isnt one. Without the actual skills in the game at the priest to check it with you can see where the mistake came from.

Thank you.

As for Practiced Stance. There are a few more non-elite preps that would benefit from it in Factions, but all in all it would be much more effective as a non-elite so you could use it with Inced. arrows or Trappers Focus/etc.

The reason Anet put Inced Arrows as elite is because it interrupt and set on fire at the same time. If its not an elite, just thinking about Quickshot+Inced Arrows (fast and easy spammable). This is what will happen with needle shot + Inced Arrows but with less dmg.

Again, praticed stance is useless for me because I dont use it in any build. Off course who like it will say something else. But, for me, I dont like it. If you use it often, fine, its your choice, I dont blame you because you use a skill that I dont like. If you feel good with a skill that the others say useless, go for it and let the others blame themself when they come face to face with another one who is a copy/paste of them.

In all, I prefer to be, sometimes, original if we compare with the others.

Iskrah · Mar 29, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Practiced Stance is incredibly stupid. It's basically a skill that has only an interest with Choking Gas, and STILL, it's not that great of an improvement!

" For 20-32 seconds, your Preparations are ready 50% faster and last 30-126% longer."
Recharge Time: 15s.

It's the worst Stance in the game, and yet, it's an Elite? Come on now!

Yukito Kunisaki · Mar 29, 2006, 06:58 PM // 18:58

Peace & Harmony...

Name me an elite worse than this and get a cookie~

mjd03003 · Mar 29, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

Theres no bad skills, only ones you haven't found a way to use yet ;-)

Francis Demeules · Mar 29, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by mjd03003

Theres no bad skills, only ones you haven't found a way to use yet ;-)

Problably the mistake that mostly all players did.

Rustjive · Mar 29, 2006, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by Francis Demeules

Signet of Midnight is a 15 seconds being blind and 15 seconds of recharge. You can use it right after it finishes. Off course Plague Touch and Epidemic with it is a great combo against warriors and assassins.

No, you weren't paying attention. It's balanced for Competition Arenas. It's not a good combo when because in any other form of competition, mend ailment, draw conditions, mend condition, etc. will negate it easily. THIS IS YOUR ELITE SLOT.

Frost_ · Mar 29, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex

Quick shot + Choking gas/Incendiary arrow can be quite good.

Another one I find barely better than Unyielding aura is Lightning surge...pitifully weak for an elite that cause exhaustion, 10 energy, and has a delay?!

to bad their both elite

quickshot used to be a lot better, best skill in game probally with tigers fury and serpents it was like a machine gun

Francis Demeules · Mar 29, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24

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Originally Posted by Rustjive

No, you weren't paying attention. It's balanced for Competition Arenas. It's not a good combo when because in any other form of competition, mend ailment, draw conditions, mend condition, etc. will negate it easily. THIS IS YOUR ELITE SLOT.

Well, all Elites are useless when you got Signet of Humility on you. Dont see always in PvP Rust, see in PvE too. Check for an overall use. Dont say "people thinks its useless, then it is".

Rustjive · Mar 29, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

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Originally Posted by Francis Demeules

Well, all Elites are useless when you got Signet of Humility on you. Dont see always in PvP Rust, see in PvE too. Check for an overall use. Dont say "people thinks its useless, then it is".

Pretty sure I never said that.

Anyways, I'm sure Signet of Humility applies to all elites - not sure what your point there is.

It doesn't strike you that Signet of Midnight is a '1v1' skill? At no point in time can you build an effective build around Signet of Midnight. Even in PvE it's not effective. You blind 2 enemies, but as a Me/N or N/Me, you have to get within touch range to do so. That entirely defeats the purpose of your tank drawing aggro.

Ghull Ka · Mar 29, 2006, 09:23 PM // 21:23

Broad Head Arrow [cost 25, recharge 20]
You shoot a broad head arrow that moves slower than normal. If it hits, target foe is dazed for 5-17 seconds, and if target foe is casting a spell that spell is interrupted. This is an elite skill.

That's a nice elite. Makes Skull Crack even more suckworthy when you can inflict dazed, at a distance, with no conditional requirements.

I wish that Skull Crack caused daze just by using it. That'd be great.

wsmcasey · Mar 29, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27

I agree, Peace and Harmony stinks

Raxxman · Mar 29, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45

eh we've already established with 2 skills sig of midnight can blind not just 2 people but a whole mob if they're up close.

I've been shown a build using Keystone Sig which looks okay but I haven't tried it.

I still think Keystones sigs drawback of disableing all your non sig skills is really harsh considering its an elite.

Skullcrack maintains use in PvE but damn is it really not good compared to any other dazing elite.

Mysterial · Mar 29, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by Ghull Ka

Broad Head Arrow [cost 25, recharge 20]
You shoot a broad head arrow that moves slower than normal. If it hits, target foe is dazed for 5-17 seconds, and if target foe is casting a spell that spell is interrupted. This is an elite skill.

That's a nice elite.

It's a nice RA elite and that's about it. The recharge is way too long for it to get any use elsewhere because the condition gets removed too fast for it to have much effect. I don't see the reason for the long recharge anyway - even with Expertise the cost is high enough that it isn't that spammable with a lower recharge.

Khift · Mar 29, 2006, 10:20 PM // 22:20

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Originally Posted by Rukmedes

Sigh, learn to be a warrior outside PvE before talking. Sure Eviscerate and Charge are the best, but Triple chop and Hundred blades are far from bad.

Cyclone axe is massivly horrible in PvP, I actually laugh out loud when I see someone run it in PvP.

Uh, yeah, Triple Chop and Hundred Blades suck. So does Cyclone Axe, at least in PvP. My point, is that Cyclone Axe hits a much larger area of effect than Hundred Blades / Triple Chop -- in order to hit multiple opponents with HB, they have to be standing RIGHT next to each other, something that doesn't happen at all in PvP and rarely happens in PvE. And, to make things worse, both of these elites have a slower recharge than Cyclone does, too.

And Triple Chop is especially bad, considering that it not only hits just one target except in very rare situations, the extra damage it does is barely more than Power Attack -- which has a much faster recharge. At least HB gives you some adrenaline.

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Originally Posted by Rukmedes

That one made me chuckle a little. Remember far back, probably before you knew what PvP ment, W/E were rampant. Destryoing everything. With what skill? GALE! What does Gale do? EXHAUSTION. This skill is by no means bad, I think it is you who is bad.

Nice try though.

Nice horrible comparison!

Gale == the perfect skill for a warrior. Very potent ranged disruption with little energy cost, a mitigatable downside (Thanks to the exhaustion bug), and very few skill points required.

Ride the Lightning == Comparatively little damage for an Ele spell, (Fireball does more damage than it, and Fireball does AoE!) what is generally considered a downside for squishy elementalists, and this is sitting in your elite spot why?

Nice try.

sh4ft3d · Mar 30, 2006, 01:13 AM // 01:13

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

I got a long series of absolutely rancid PUGs 27 of them to be exact. Can't get past THK otherwise I'm fairly certain I could cap it with nothing but henchies. 27 THK failures is frustrating. I wish they had left the elites spread out more. I'd love the help though and appreciate the offer. I have a day off tomorrow so maybe if I can catch you around then.

I'd be happy to, but I don't have much free time during the week. I'll message you if I catch you in game

funestis · Jun 20, 2009, 12:50 PM // 12:50

Star Burst

Never found good use for it.

Šiljo · Jun 20, 2009, 01:20 PM // 13:20

holy rez!!

ot: roj ><

Zaris · Jun 20, 2009, 01:54 PM // 13:54

How about "The Power Is Yours!"
Has that skill ever been used

EDIT: Why res a three year old thread?

Longasc · Jun 20, 2009, 01:57 PM // 13:57

I like to play a Necromancer. But rezzing a 2 years old thread where Broad Head Arrow was still at 25 energy is just wrong.

zelgadissan · Jun 20, 2009, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by Zaris

How about "The Power Is Yours!"
Has that skill ever been used

Two paragon GvG team. Ridiculously spammable free energy for your team, namely monks.

On topic, Shroud of Silence is up there now. Ridiculously OP when it came out, then nerfed to ridiculously untouchable.

Also, 2006-2009 is three years